That America was prophecied 2600 years ago and it's fate was already chosen. Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezras Eagle. She only came to tell him about this vision she had. Generally speaking people who advance in true knowledge and understanding, and lets presume Brother Stroud is one such, grow in learning to recognize what I call the fingerprints of God that identify a particular spiritual experience as originating from God. Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. I am much more impressed by the ignorant man who is filled with the love of God for the people around him, than the person who professes to know the secrets of Christ, and aspire to be worthy of the company of the former. Rush had been residing in Dallas County, Texas . A neighbor gave me his podcasts, and as I listened to them I increasingly felt uncomfortable with his teachings; especially the Visions of Glory type stories of others that he shared. Fear. Not my place. Heroically. But havent as yet got much of it read. The book the Lord said in the Doctrine and Covenants had some problems. My question was Are you in a position to tell us what part of that definition was applied by whom in Mikes case? A simple no would have been an adequate response. by Lemarque August 20th, 2021, 9:06 pm, Post Christ visiting hundreds and thousands of people at the same time at the temple in Bountiful with rings of fire around the children andgranting translation to the 3 Nephites. Here we have the author making another conclusion that leaves you wondering where in the world it came from. However, that was one very spiritual experience he shared with us that has stuck with me through life. I really don't like his book Revelation. Many prophets exist; men and women alike, but only one is THE prophet. Michael B. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures inover 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book -, The Curious Case of My Technicolored Genenome, Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine, Chapter 19 - The Pre-mortal Legacy of the House of Israel, Dana Coverstone Dream - Think Ezra's Eagle, Sharyl Attkisson - Astroturf and the Manipulation of the Modern Narrative. The fate of the last 2 "break-away" feathersand who they serve UNDER. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. Contact Us - Privacy Policy - Terms and Conditions. God has presumably chosen certain spirits in advance and has nothing directly to do with love for them specifically but rather love for the human race that is answered by providing certain talents at certain places and times. That is the reality of who we are and that everyone needs to wake up to to establish Zion. I have not listened to all of his podcasts but I have to many and in my view his opinions are well within the scope of the gospel taught by Joseph and I am deeply troubled that someone could be expelled from the Church of Christ for teaching principals that bring us closer to him. The part that really caught my attention was this One item I recognized in his new podcasts was something Stroud talked about in his original series, that the 144,000 talked about in the Book of Revelation were a group of men and women who used portals to move through time and space to gather the elect. WATCH: Kamala Harris and Michael B. Jordan Open NBA All Star Game By Encouraging Vaccinations and Praising HBCUs Gov. Rush Limbaugh's Death Certificate Includes a Final Boast. But theres plenty of spooks in the church who consider themselves experts on this matter and have plenty to say about it and how evil and occultic it is. Such drug usage stands in sharp contrast to his love of studying the Book of Mormon, earning him a reputation among his friends as a scriptorian. He says he became a man obsessed only with learning about faith, not following. Perry, James M., reporter, National Observer, "This Fella from Arizona", in Audubon, November 1981, pp. There are a number of other attempts to emphasize certain doctrines that are more conservative than not. Under the special definition subsection 1 it could be nothing more than resuming podcasts if his local leaders had instructed him to cease podcasts. And now it has come to this. I still think that Mike Stroud may be in error on some of his teachings. It started off as a lark but after getting a taste of the attention and the power it gave them, they developed an appetite for it. Stroud told a family story about his grandparents in Payson, Utah. what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues. What a dilemma! Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Incidentally, no alternative under the definition of apostacy [a]s used here, i.e. Of course he should just as the Savior taught. (Myers) Rush on December 22, 1981 in Texas and they later separated on July 5, 1984 in Texas . It had more to do with some very immature teenager girls who convinced everyone that they had a special ability to see evil in a person that no one else could. Apostasy, Excommunication, LDS, Mormon, Mormon Discussion. To be fair, Mike did put a disclaimer at the beginning and the end of the podcast in question that this technique may not be for everyone and should only be tried with discernment. He was born and raised in the Western United States, among the rugged Wasatch mountains, and the rural California coastline. It is only by the Spirit that I know that The Church of Jesus Christ or Latter-Day Saints is a true church or that Joseph Smith was a true Prophet or that The Book of Mormon is true or that Jesus is the Christ and His Atonement is real. That suggested the possibility that he knew what the grounds were and might have told you. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. To me his message can be summed up in BRM additional verse to Come Listen to a Prophets Voice. "When You Wish Upon A Star: The Musical Legacy of Utah Composer Leigh Harline. I have also been told clearly, Do not compare your experiences with others and Trust meRelax. Separation is another illusion brought about by the fall. It strikes me how much the church has changed even in my life time The increase skepticism and unbelief is remarkable.I can remember G.C .talks on having your calling and election made sure and the importance of hearing the more sure word of prophesy. Now I havent followed Rowe at all, but I understand her to be conservative, focusing on preparing for the end times. Even though many people have heard Gods voice, received instruction from God or various angels, they are usually instructed either by scripture or by inspiration to not publish such revelations. by Lemarque August 20th, 2021, 9:40 am, Post (But the few Spanish and Portuguese podcasts are still up, so who knows.). That passion for Mormon doctrine did not prevent his 2003 excommunication from the LDS Church. I am a better disciple of Christ, and I have grown closer to him. The Christian Century, Volume 119 Number 7, March 27-April 3, 2002. by Jeff Schogol, Robert B. Horine, et al. Did you do this 4 times a day for 4 years? While joy and cheer attend thy choice, Steve you are WRONG. It is simultaneously hilarious and tragic that an institution who makes such extraordinary (some would say literally unbelievable) claims about personal revelations, heavenly visitations, etc. What mightve gotten him in trouble this time? Required fields are marked *. Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. The ruling of his stake on this matter may indicate otherwise. While it is true that we teach of visions and angelic ministrants and such we also teach of the adversarys counterfeits as well and the imperative of learning to discern between deception and Godly instruction. I dont know why a person would think otherwise. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book - A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. What am I going to do about it? They will range over the earth, visit distant friends, and, for aught we know, the planets, and accomplish great feats; do that which will enhance our happiness, increase to us every enjoyment of life, and prepare us for celestial glory; but when we wake in the morning, it is all gone from us; we have forgotten it.. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Should they ignore the 5-7 years of hell and miraculous recovery they endured/obvserved trying to follow previous revelation that produced "good fruit", roll the dice, and basically tell the Lord, "I didn't learn a thing last time! The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. 2. He was never under any threat of disciplinary action as far as I can tell, but priesthood leaders found several of his teachings inappropriate. To his credit, Stroud clearly identified those teachings in his final podcast, published November 5th. As I have looked at the Ezra's Eagle prophecy from the apocrypha directly, I have noted many additional insights in The Last Days Timeline as I pondered Ezra's Eagle steadily for 5 weeks. Dont be afraid of being deceived. I think his cognitive dissonance is almost to a breaking point. I am the definition of a Rush Baby, and its not just me. It also hinders our ability to love. Thanks for your input, Scootd28. This is not an official site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I really like A Remnant Shall Return (which covers Ezra's Eagle) and Daniel 11. We have heard only a few of Mikes podcasts encouraging personal revelation. Bagley, Will. This is the current definition of apostasy per the handbook: Schism, at least in the sense that the United Methodists are now facing, seems like a very distant notion to me. That is the only dominion that can bring about eternal life. I have learned to accept what Im given as priceless. I think youre right that the contact is more common but we have to not be afraid of it. In that last days we are told that spiritual manifestations will increase. How many times over the last 25 years did I cringe when someone would quote Mormon Doctrine as fact instead of opinion. Joel Rush, Marla Rush, Brandi Rush, Reanna Creech and Natalie Castleberry, and many others are family members and associates of Michael. Judgment. Alma 12 clearly teaches to seek after knowledge, and to him who does not harden his heart, will be given the mysteries of God. 9 reviews 2018 Edition - Includes Section Seven - World's Without End. Excommunicated Podcaster, Mike Stroud, has claimed in many of his podcasts and other "private settings" that he is obsessed with the idea of "A REMNANT" and he believes there are a select group of people that will be chosen to be part of this "remnant" apart from ,and ahead of, the main body of Saints. Where are they today? I think Brother Stroud left orbit some time ago. Caring and love. The final conclusions of the Ezra's Eagle prophecy takes us to the restoration of the US Constitution. In truth, I have learned that many actually DO tend to lust after spiritual experiences, precisely because their IS an hierarchy at least in our minds. 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Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. Michael B. Jordan and Lori Harvey are saying goodbye to paradise. There more from the doc that could be discussed. Taking a liberal approach has not saved liberal churches from rapid decline. Apparently, some tried it and did not have a good experience. He posted a video yesterday with his take on the infamous Covid email. If it were, it would be HIS love, not mine. When Visions of Glory was first gaining popularity a few years back, this was one of many teachings that got highlighted in critiques from FairMormon and Meridian Magazine. Preparing for the Second Coming - Pres. Why is she not seeking the confirmation of the Holy Ghost? [A]t this point in time, in the day of the gathering of Israel, there has never been a more appropriate time for us to obtain the power and knowledge, wisdom and understanding from the Book of Mormon through revelation and angelic ministry than right now. In my prayers I give thanks for what I have and very seldom ask for anything. I look forward to the day when were all living in peace and harmony, of one heart and one mind. Still, this whole matter with Mike Stroud has been very disheartening. View and manage who you follow on Amazon. Michael passed away in December 2019. He posted a video yesterday with his take on the infamous Covid email. Thanks for the write up. As you read the chapters in the Book of Mormon, identify beforehand the characters that you will be reading about. Vol. The timing of the restoration of the nation. But, early on it was clear he was sympathetic to and shared some of the same beliefs as Denver Snuffer, and he followed his own path; he chose his own way rather than humble himself and remain in the Lords church. He gave an address at an end-times conference in Arizona last November on Accessing the Fullness of the Atonement of Jesus Christ through Personal Revelation. At the end of the presentation, he announced that he would be starting a new podcast series on the Book of Mormon, and the Lord wanted the podcasts translated into Spanish. My heart hurts for them. So what exactly is the fruit of Mike Strouds podcasts? Hierarchies of Spiritually Advanced or not so much of called vs chosen, or noble and great ones. Its only when a person overtly undermines the stewardship of The Church and the proper pattern of authority, that it seems people actually run into trouble. I have a dear friend who started hearing voices and seeing people. Michael B. If youre going to make extraordinary truth claims and claims about revelations, visions, etc., youre going to look a bit foolish when you say something like, oh, well these people all had visions and those were real, but these people having visions are making false claims or deceived by Satan or whatever. I hate all of it. Fear is a tool of the adversary. I worked in the SL temple, and I loved it, but my time with the Lord is more precious to me than that ever was. Many of you might be familiar with this guy, he's the guy who's been quite prolific about the Ezra's Eagle prophecy. After bearing a heartfelt testimony of the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, President Russell M. Nelson, and deity, Brother Stroud announced he'd been excommunicated for apostasy. Turning again to Alma: 30:53 But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. With this we can rid ourselves of all fear and ridicule of others and have confidence that we are taking the right path. In modern times we are seeing Kimberly and her associates making the same claim. [3:00] It was inappropriate for me to teach that persons should seek to be translate or to receive an ordinance of translation and become members of the 144,000 spoken of in scripture. Clay Critter Dc, A Remnant Shall Return - 2020 Edition: A Study of the Restoration of the House of Israel (Understanding the Last Days Series Book 1), 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. I am really disappointed in this article. The meeting was not an official church gathering so the church could not protect him from that. Hierarchy is a perception of of the fallen state We perceive that it exists because of our natural eyes. Actor Michael B. Jordan takes over as Alexa by Amazon in this Super Bowl LV commercial. I am thankful for these choice lessons from an excellent teacher, and I mourn with Bro. Replace it with righteous dominion? He gives exact quotes and where they can be found down to the page number. Moroni 7:16; Mike Strouds work invites me do good and believe in Christ. When you start trying to define the difference between highly unlikely but inspired and highly unlikely and crazy (which is a very fine line, I think), youre playing a losing game, IMHO. DSC, I agree that the church has always dealt with apostasy from either side (its interesting to compare Malcom Jeppsens early 1990s bell curve of membership to the December 2015 Enemies Slide released by MormonLeaks things really havent changed all that much). This is a sad outcome to befall a man who had a lot of spiritual gifts to share. Now, the church excommunicates someone who teaches that these stories are to be applied to us, each of us, equals, loved equally? I dont quite share Strouds optimism about the spiritual level of the church as a whole. If we just use good judgement we will already be able to expose the lies. Thank you, Kimberly. Evan. Some disliked her quite a bit. This Podcast is based off the book - A Remnant Shall Return written by Michael Rush. They mean well so it doesnt occur to them that odd and peculiar can be pretty damn good. For them, all it takes is about 2 minutes of eastern style meditation and youre floating away. Michael B Rush 1947 Born c. 1947 Last Known Residence Dallas County, Texas Summary Michael B Rush of Dallas County, Texas was born c. 1947. He even said the church is basically responsible for distributing the Book of mormon while Mike and his podcasts were used by God to GATHER THE ELECT. Also I have pondered a lot on the fact that Lehi was not a prophet in his day but a regular man that spent some time pondering the teachings of prophets and had a vision and shared that vision. A Facebook page was put up in December called Mike Stroud Podcast Exposed, modeled after another Exposed page. If they say he was talking about astral projection then he was and thats that. Why not? by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 11:33 am, Post 15 February 2021 at 7:34 PM. Rush on Facebook. I have a doubt that I am wise enough to ask for what will most benefit me, my family, community and nation. The whole thing is very good, but if you're in a hurry scroll over to 22 minutes. Here we know essentially nothing about whatever Google.docs article/letter you refer to. Caring implies action; love is just a feeling. Really enjoy reading your blog site! But I think Ive made my point. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. Interestingly, I just found out that Julie Rowe, another podcaster and author, was excommunicated in April. This is a feeling of lightness and euphoria, begins in the chest hard area, and slowly expands outward, is subtle yet very noticeable, it almost feels as if youre being drawn upward and out of your body, it radiates outward in a swelling motion and is very desirable. It takes the seeker after a sign to the next level. They can appoint themselves to be teachers but no one else can. Upon concluding his mission, Michael attended and graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in accounting and information systems. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:44 pm, Post Rockwell, thanks for the heads up. This flies in the face of their favorite social media montras Follow the prophet! So apparently we should always follow the prophetexcept for them when a prophet says something they disagree with and then they can toss it outbut for the rest of us, we have to hold strict adherence. When I was 15, I went to a youth conference where he spoke several times. Your email address will not be published. Thats like at Christmas when your children tell you their wish list. .. The church does not regulate claims per se (IMO) but rather who is authorized to speak for God. The Gospel topics essays are a mixed bag. Again not my story to tell. Oh thats right theyre anonymous. The lady said she knew it was the Lord. Are there saints among them? Unfortunately, some Church members have viewed groups they considered to be Lamanites with condescension or contempt, (Lamanite Identity, Church History Topic), Mary Ann has blogged at Wheat and Tares since 2015. Michael is the the author of three books, A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine. The part of my life most closely parallel to your description was in the Navy in Alaska where I had plenty of time for scripture study, prayer, but more importantly an environment where nature was pristine outside the barracks of course. And he got into some pretty crazy stuff. 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