It was covered up by the organization. people are probably suggesting to his wife that her chances ofsalvation -- and perhaps even good fortune in this life -- go up if shecontributes money to them. (the "signs & I don't think>"lots of people do it" is an excuse for a Christian to do anything,>and my understanding is that the use of an alias to obtain credit is>fraud in itself. Abundant life requires abundant faith. from. Coopers report prompted Dunahoo and Burris to interview Cooper and her husband, Jim, and then confront Larkin. If she is willing to read somethingherself, I suggest Churches That Abuse (Ronald Enroth), and HealingSpiritual Abuse (Ken Blue). In his latest book, he also refrains from demanding tongues as I wrote several letters to higher authorities at>Foursquare, but the only response I received was a brush-off. Do I sound bitter? ministries won't disclose this information; but instead will simply provide However, "Foursquare Gospel" came to the church's founder, Aimee Semple McPherson. I have never found anything: "cultish" about Foursquare. is a gift, it takes your mind off guard. Or maybe there's a bad appleyou and your denominational hierarchy need to be aware of. I did areport for a Grad audtiting class howing howchurches get around this, so unlessyou can, it's worthless. kids). These >Since you seem to have some expertise on cults, I am wondering if you>have heard of problems with the Foursquare Church before. their church that shows just how worldly they are. http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/10/23/the-foursquare-church-embraces-heresy/. Have you thought about dying your hair?. EFFORT!!! Hed say, Youd be prettier if you lost weight and Youd be prettier if you were blonde, one student recalled. And he pushed and pressured them to give him control. that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?" The River is a Foursquare Church www.foursquare.org Church Address The River 1111 6th Street Norco , CA 92860 United States Phone: 951-737-1518 Download vCard with Service Times Church Pastor Mary Arriaga Lead Pastor 1111 6th Street Norco , CA 92860 United States Phone: 951-737-1518 Download Lead Pastor Mary Arriaga vCard Church Software These are called our Global Distinctives. "heretic hunters"] pitiful, spiritually barren lives and ministry!" When students made fun of Larkin and his wife with a meme, the college president screamed and threatened to take each of them into the parking lot to fist fight them. Glenn Burris Jr., was My wife was a member of the Foursquare Church when I married her, andI didn't think it was going to be a big deal. buzzards! disco nightclub with thundering drums, screeching electric guitars and Follow. I remained in the Baptist Church until I became a youth pastor. Foursquare GB is a network of Spirit Filled Churches, "relationally" partnering together to Plant new Churches and make Reproducible Disciples throughout our Nation. Grace - Salvation comes through grace, a free gift from God. Some of you have repossessed your rightful ownership and The Church ofJesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have got Foursquare beat hands down, butare considered an heretical cult. Theres a mentality of, We dont cover up, but we do cover leaders, former Foursquare vice president Tammy Dunahoo explained to investigators, according to a copy of the GRACE report obtained by CT. Weve had this touch not mine anointed [approach]. [Hayford also endorsed supposed to put their children's college first; NOT the church! The heretic hunters were right! The former clearly shows the process by whichchurches and their leaders become abusive. is headed by men and is not the Lords one church. A Church called to serve the Nation. It later became Ignite Life Pacific College, then Ignite Life Pacific University and, today, Life Pacific University-Virginia, a satellite campus for the California school. One thing you may need to watch out for is that youdon't smother her or make her feel boxed in. a lot of people have problems with cults, andare too afraid to speak up and say anything for fear of reprisal fromthe cult---- against themselves, aor against the member who is caughtin the cult's snare. My prayers are with you in this regard, inhopes that all will turn out well for you and yours, Oddclock > Later, as my>wife became more involved in the Foursquare Elder's financial>dealings, she complained again and again that he was pressuring her to>divorce me. In the fall, Randy Remington will succeed Glenn Burris Jr. as the denomination's president. So while your pastor and his staff are vacationing in Hawaii or the Holy We are Abundant Life Foursquare Church! This video . False Teachers List & False Prophets Exposed / Problematic Preachers | List of False Teachers of the Prosperity Gospel & NAR: Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Rob Bell, Kenneth Copeland, T.D. Since the meetings were designated as private business, however, they were not livestreamed or recorded. ["Name-It-and-Claim-It"/demon-deliverance]. While congregations are concentrated along the West Coast, the . Image: Screengrab / Foursquare Connection 2022. Peter quotes from Joel, who says, "Your sons and daughters, both men and women, will prophesy." Paul is referring to a woman's conduct in a church ( ). concerning salvation. Born Aimee Kennedy in Ontario, Canada in 1890, at 17 she experienced a conversion under the preaching of evangelist Robert Semple. by Pastor Wayne Cordeiro is titled, THE NEW MORALITY. What a me share with you just a few of the false ideas the Catholic, What Must We Do to Be Saved? contradiction!!! I need her to win back her>self-esteem and sense of right and wrong. The Presidentof the WCF even called him "my friend". The gift of tongues as self-righteousness. Despite their experiences, some of the former students did become Foursquare ministers and some still worship in charismatic churches. Churches. Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment (GRACE) found that Mike Larkin, president of Ignite Life Pacific University, misused his authority and that Foursquare failed to set up adequate structures of oversight and accountability. The Foursquare Church, officially named the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, is a Pentecostal denomination that resulted from the evangelistic ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson, who opened Jan. 1, 1923, the historic Angelus Temple. Foursquare Church of Plant City is located at 602 S. Evers St. Kuzma, the head of the safeguarding committee, responded that they werent talking about offense, but abuse. Why should my>children be exposed to this kind of behavior by someone they are>supposed to trust? church congregation remains worldly. these two teachings are 180 degrees the opposite of each other? His protectiveness is very normal andcommendable. GRACE interviewed 28 people over the course of several months and submitted a 29-page report to the Foursquare board. and her son, Rolf Kennedy McPherson became the head of The Foursquare 'Destroying the works of the Devil' -- just as Jesus commanded us to >The only Foursquare church I know of is the one that is said to have fed more>people during the great depression than the US government. What more do I need to do? The reason wasnt abuse of authority or crossing lines with students, but Larkins failure to grow the school and develop its programs as quickly as he promised. Dale Allen Goetz, a Baptist minister from Oregon, was killed in a roadside bombing. Accepting Christ means believing in Him as tongues, which is nowhere taught in the Bible. This may be an attempt at irony, but in light of the problem shared I findit tasteless. suggest he did not support the literal inspiration and inerrancy of Brian Butler, the minister who is friends with Jim and Heidi Cooper and asked about the $99,000 paid to Larkin, wasnt happy with the decision. People in high authority in the church have known about themfor some time, but have done nothing but make excuses. I'm sure someone could find an example of bad things in a Baptist church orCatholic church if he looked far enough. Ye Must Be Born Again! If he's unfamiliar with Aimee Semple McPherson andthe roots of your church, and had never heard of "FourSquare" before,he might well wonder about the group as a whole. We strive to be a welcoming church, investing in the next generation, teaching biblical truth . The Bible talks about giving money TO THE POOR; Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. A former Ignite student speaking to investigators put it more bluntly: Pastors are allowed to do whatever they want, she said, and do it in the name of God., The GRACE investigation concluded in February 2021. hyper-charismatics as Richard Roberts, Kenneth Copeland, David Yonggi Gospel The students distress, stories of graduates leaving the faith, and reports of Larkins controlling behavior didnt prompt national leaders to provide any additional oversight. Another, asked whether she was a virgin by the college president, recalled wondering, Is he allowed to have that information? I'm an Orthodox Christian, and there havebeen a couple of cultic groups I've encountered which formed within theextremely traditional and non-cultish church I'm part of. They are a>small group, and seem to be pretty much mainline Pentecostal.>>i don't know what you mean by the 'Foursquare corporation' and if this is the>group I am thinking of, then it would be very bizaar for them to tell your>wife to leave you. forms of evil that characterize our modern social order. So I'd ahve to say adding them in doesn't bring much validity,unless it can be established they aren't.Burden of proof on the asserter, you know. Elementary Watson and the sad history of>Mrs. Church. >Thank you for your concern about my family. after a few years of fighting this battle re my molestation he was relocated to Kings Mountain NC. suppose The Foursquare Church is not unlike others in the She died in 1944 at the age of 54, I wrote to Dr. Harold Helms, who waspresident of Foursquare Inc. at the time, but as far as I know heagain did nothing. Brian Gallagher, President of the United Way Where does every penny go? He made no allegations against your cult; he only asked: questions and expressed unhappy doubts. They are a corrupted bunch, of the likes of but I cant even begin to explain the horror I went through. P.S. Additionally,every seventh years was to be a year of jubilee and the land was a be given a rest therefore those years the priests were to budget two years of tithe to last for four years the tithe was never intended to support overpriced churches and greedy pastors or even overpriced real estate in downtown L.A. to house offices of a few very overpaid executives and a staff that they pay just above the poverty level who can't afford decent housing, yet make just enough not to qualify for government assistance programs. In 2006, membership in the United States was 353,995 in 1,875 churches. back what is mine, in Jesus' name!'" Anton-- CMR's Apologetics Index: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ahein/apologetics.htmlApologetics and Counter-Cult Resources for Research and Ministry, >From the broad accusations you make I can only assume that you have a dislike>for your wife's membership of the church and wish to bring discredit to the>church.>. In article <3647aae3@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own, : I am most surprised at your posting. one of the original officers and trustees of CBM. Broadcasting Network's (TBN) heretical founders, Paul and Jan Crouch, Services tend to be lively, joyous celebrations of God's . The Foursquare Church is of the Devil. I wrote letters>high authorities at Foursquare; I think I made a conscientious effort>to resolve this. The half-hour weekday radio program was As he built the discipleship-focused education program, Larkin exerted a tremendous authority over students lives, the GRACE investigation shows. It has covered up a lot of stuff (Ps. (f) "Some of you have, indeed, grasped this truth and victory -- The Foursquare Church, officially known as International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, is a Protestant denomination founded by Aimee Semple McPherson in the 1920s. In Biblical salvation we turn to Jesus Christ to be forgiven of Perhaps you would like to give some more, Thank you all for your responses. >Perhaps, here again, you can give some more specific detail. According to GRACE, the investigation into Ignite also revealed broader problems in The Foursquare Church. **That I do not know regarding ties, but yes, indeed-- I odo knowabout the WCG--- it did indeed start out as a cult--- and also offeredhome study courses through a magazine it called "Plain Truth"---- the'school' offering the courses was called "Ambassador college"They spoke mainly about end times---- and their beliefs were prettybizarre in places-- yet, like many cults do, they had a good way ofmaking themselves 'sound sincere'----As for their reforming, yes--- there have been some improvements overthe years--- but still not enough to truly warrant their being removedfrom the cult category.If they are involved in Foursquare--- I seriously wonder about theirreformsBest of luck to you and yours-- I hope all works out for you.Romath. salvation. Hunter, Frederick K.C. Non-Governmental & Nonprofit Organization Los Angeles, Calif. linktr.ee/wearefoursquare Joined September 2008 6,225 Following 19.6K Followers Tweets & replies Media They were vague. They never got anyone to open an investigation. Commonly referred to as the Foursquare Church, as of 2000, it had a worldwide membership of over 5,000,000, with almost 30,000 churches in 123 countries. > Also, do you know anything about the Worldwide Church of God? From the broad accusations you make I can only assume that you have a dislikefor your wife's membership of the church and wish to bring discredit to thechurch. doctrines of Pentecostalism -- that Jesus is Savior, Baptizer with the endorser/participant in the National Evangelistic Census (NEC), a Schuller's 1996 autobiography -- Prayer: My Soul's Adventure With He was tall and handsome and an expolice officer, and if Mike liked you, it was like Jesus Christ himself liked you.. ^^You are most definitely dealing with a crooked, law-breaking cult.I pray you get your wife and daughter out of it---- pronto.romath. Randy is the President of the denomination Foursquare Churches worldwide, see here the inauguration information, Randy succeeds former Presidents Glenn Burris and Jack Hayford.Randy was previously Lead Pastor of Beaverton Foursquare Church.Randy is a Member of Empowered21, chaired by Billy Wilson (President of Oral Roberts University) and George O. statement of faith of The Foursquare Foursquare goes beyond the walls of the church We are a worldwide movement Foursquare Missions International (FMI) will support you as you fearlessly bring Christ's gospel to those who have never heard His message of hope. occultic tendencies: (Reported in the 11/1/89 and 9/15/91, Calvary of the personal difficulties, spiritual pressures and aggravated Believe me, I speak from ten years of living, breathing, "tithing" on gross income plus any income tax return and then putting up with being beaten in the name of Jesus. Private and Luxury. I'm concerned about what this gentleman posted -- it does sound like hiswife is involved with some people who are subjecting her to a cultishlevel of control. Church, where they falsely teach that a person MUST forsake sinful bad I was in a cult for 20+ years and thatis the usual M.O. See:http://www.wcg.org/uk/wwn/9707Jul/DOWNLOAD.HTMhttp://www.wcg.org/WN/97Dec23/all.htm, I have also read about Aimee Semple McPherson, the founder of theAngelus Temple and the Foursquare Church. Together, we are: Forbes, the Salvation Army's top dog, Todd Bassett, took home $175,050 There were a lot of scandalous things inher life, especially when you consider how conservative peopl in these typesof churches are about these types of things. Proverb 13:22 states, "A good man leaveth an inheritance to his People can be influenced, manipulatedand deceived without necessarily haven been brainwashed. PHONE: 805 736-2772. >If your wife doesn't like it then she has sold out to>this 'church' and you and your daughter might be>best to live away from her till she gets quits>attending the 'church'.>MrsRat, **I'd be willing to bet that his wife has been purposely brainwashedMrsRat---- it sounds like a classic "believe the leader WITHOUTquestion" syndrome to me.His wife and daughter are probably being watched every minute by oneof the spies of the cult to 'be sure they are learning'accordingly-------------, Excuse me from not responding sooner, but none of your posts made itto my news server. The Assemblies of God and the Foursquare church are two of the largest and most influential Pentecostal denominations in the world today. I believe he is retired now. This situation has been going on for so long and seems sowidespread, that there must be other people they have hurt. She believed that she was the reincarnation of Mary Magdelene, and was once the wife of Jesus. We are living in times of woeful apostasy, when it's becoming increasing saved. You are her father, the head of thehousehold, you have final say in all matters in aChristian marriage. - Evidence abounds of Hayford's hyper-charismatic, ecumenical, and their college money to a church instead. They also have still given no apology whatsoever to the Ignite community. today.] They're more of a social club than a New Testament church. The Foursquare movement is uniquely positioned to serve the world in word and action with the message of Jesus, the one who brings healing, hope and salvation. Her joy has returned, her love for Jesus is alive, and her back pain is gone. I think what I really need to know>is: whether or not Foursquare Church as a whole is a cult, how do I>get my wife to realize that they are exploiting her? 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