At 11:15PM June 29, 1968 I left Bien Hoa airport on a Trans International DC-10. a light greenish blue I gotta go make a life for myself. So, he joined the army.. March 15, 1962, marked the first day of the Vietnam War Campaign, according to U.S. Army historians. I went to Vietnam on a ship so we had 21 days to prepare our minds unlike the guys traveling by plane that had only a few hours to prepare! Developed to supplement the Boeing 727 on short and thin routes, the twinjet retains the 707 fuselage width and six abreast seating with two underwing turbofans. This exhibition is currently available online only. In the years following World War II, a group of 10 American mercenary pilots who flew in China as part of the American Volunteer Groupbetter known as the Flying Tigersbanded together to start a transcontinental airline. or Best Offer. Remember the illumination flares as we were coming in on final as the sun had not come up yet. A great story, even made me cry, vaguely remembering the trips each way, to and from Vietnam. Finally the plane started to move down the runway faster and faster. . We all wanted to get home, but wondered if this old crate could get us there. As their deaths did not occur in the Vietnam combat zone, their names were . I know you dont remember many of our faces, as we no longer remember yours, but we thank you for taking care for us. Joe Namath, Jim Otto, and, Marv Fleming on our returning flight after spending time visiting the wounded Vietnam soldiers at several hospitals. Flying the Freedom Birds: Airlines and the Vietnam War. If not for you, the World would be much worse off. As the company celebrated its first year of Transpacific service, ground breaking for Flying Tigers first Asian terminal took place in Tokyo, Japan the companies hub for Asian operations. Check out our flying tigers airlines selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. However, Kadena was not able to resupply the galley but the crew got a lot of junk food to hold us over till we got to Tokyo where we were off-loaded again and the plane was serviced. ATDB.aero shows that it spent most of its career at Flying Tiger Line, but did also serve Lufthansa on a leased basis. The team had completed its assigned mission and was waiting to . Nobody wanted to take anybody over there who wasnt coming back.. Carrying 32,000 pounds of cargo at 275 miles per hour with a 2,000 mile range, the DC-6A carried more, cheaper and faster than any other aircraft flying at the time. A little over an hour later, it was expected to reach the coordinates of 140N 1350E. One day in Vietnam, waiting on the tarmac before a homeward-bound flight, she saw men loading body bags into the belly of the plane. Circa 1968-1972 Vietnam War CASI Continental Air Services Inc Shirt Type 1st Officer Wing RARE Item: aircw60001sw. I remember one of the attendants wishing my a HAPPY BIRTHDAY. where we are found aloft Wonderful memories. Very interesting. Two of the incidents occurred within the span of one day. I stopped a stewardess to inquire if they had any other reading material on board. The flight had originated at Travis AFB, Ca. Not certain but I believe Delta may have been one exception. The airline had its humble beginnings in Long Beach California with the Budd Conestoga, but by 1969 had upgraded its propeller-driven, piston engine fleet to one consisting entirely of jet freighters. May 23, 2016 by Flight 12 - Flying Tigers DC-8 Incident in Bien Hoa Vietnam Dan was kind enough to share a fascinating story from the Vietnam war involving a Flying Tigers DC-8. It broke my heart the way they were treated a few years later, especially knowing I had been in attendance on their flight into a war zone, and wondered how they had faired in the return to the USA. Despite the intensity of the operations, many flight attendants found the military contract flights rewarding and continued to serve on them for years. That year, Flying Tiger Line lost four aircraft in incidents, the bulk of which while operating charters for the U.S. military. Sargent had already separated once from the service when he was coaxed back in to join the special unit. The flights depart at 7:35 (SIN time), 13:10 (SIN time) and 15:15 (SIN time). One of the seven people on boardthe flight engineerwas killed in a fire that destroyed the aircraft and all its contents. Some say it was sabotage, she said. I spent one year there and flew 15 missions in Vietnam, 8 north and 7 south. During the "American war," he worked for a CIA contractor, flying unarmed bush planes in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Tigers suddenly needed bodies to work those long overseas flights, and when it put out calls for flight attendants, adventurous women answered. The Stewardess came back after about 10-15 minutes and asked me Do you mind if I ask you a personal question? I told her No, not really.. Flying Tiger was my airline of choice. The young men would leave their patches, their names, their addresses, their rosary beads and ask the crew members to write to them while they were in Vietnam. The C-47 could fly 7,500 pounds of cargo over a range of 600 miles at 150 miles per hour. I have always appreciated the kindness that was shown by the stewardesses on our trip home, if only the rest could have been as kind! I remember the flight over and appreciate this article about those that made the trip over to Vietnam enjoyable despite apprehension and anxiety most of us 19 year olds carried with us. These men and their flight crew perished in what would become one of the biggest aviation. I remember how kind and understanding these ladies were to we soldiers going to a war zone. AU $157.06. Great article; Thanks. JW, beautiful poem. When a positive story about the Vietnam experience shows up it helps the healing that many of us need. In one of the seats was Army Specialist Donald Sargent, who had joined the Army and became a Ranger as a way to escape a life of near certain poverty in his hometown of Cornish, Maine. Nothing about lithium batteries in here, but tigers did fly about every type of ammunition and explosives back in the day and it never caused an accident. We of course did not get his and flew on to Bangkok where we transferred to a military aircraft and flew down to U-T a B-52 base. I salute you all ladies!! From 1979 to 1980 the Flying Tiger Line passed Pan Am to become the world's number one air cargo carrier. The flight attendants were as depicted in this article, both going and coming home. Thank you ladies, as a veteran of several tours in the Nam, I always remembered those who catered to us as we flew to and from the zone and their efforts to help us feel comfortable as possible. Each of the awesome giants flies more than 200,000 pounds of cargo at 575 miles per hour over a 3,500-mile range. Very good article. Prescott and other members of the "Flying Tigers" American Volunteer Group, the airline operated known under the name of National Skyway Freight Corporation.The airline started the operations with 14 Budd Conestogas, later being replaced by C-46s and DC-4s. Reach further with Vietnam Airlines flights, a Skyteam member and a global leading 4-Star Skytrax and awarded airline. Never again! B-747-100 Flying Tigers was the first airline to operate Boeing 747 passenger aircraft converted into efficient air freighters. Daniel Dattpla IIFFV Original Party. The. Ninety-three of these were enlisted with the US Army, with the remaining three being from South Vietnam. Why Were Vietnam War Vets Treated Poorly When TheyReturned? Great article and I do so remember that flight and not having even an idea what was waiting for me .. Great Read, I was a 26 year old man when I went to that war, I remember not sleeping on the flying tiger flight back home, and the stewardess, sat and talked to me as everyone else was sleeping, I thought the stewardess was a nice person that was concerned about my not sleeping and ask why. Many of these people became valuable members of the Flying Tigers family. Piloted by the novice American Volunteer Group, who were from all branches of the military and civilians, these men provided military support to the Republic of China in their defense against the Japanese invasion between 1941-1942. Breen wanted to travel and supported the war she believed then that it was about fighting communism and after she saw a Flying Tigers want ad in The Chronicle, she soon found herself in flight attendant school, wearing the Tigers uniform of a grayish-blue skirt suit with black pumps and white gloves. She learned then that the Flying Tiger Line, also known as Flying Tigers, specialized in troop transports. I was 24, Breen recalled. Jason Fagone is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. or Best Offer +$7.50 shipping. I do not dwell on the negatives of that war , but there will always be a part of those of us that served in Vietnam that we would prefer to live without. Hamburg, 27 February 2023 - EGYPTAIR took delivery of its first A321neo from Airbus' Delivery Centre in Hamburg, making the airline the first African operator of the aircraft.. EGYPTAIR has specified a high comfort, two-class configuration with 16 Business class seats and 166 Economy class seats, and will increase the airline's single aisle capacity to the Middle East, Africa and Europe. On Wednesday, families of those lost on Flight 739 gathered in Columbia Falls, Maine, for a ceremony marking the 60th anniversary of the loss of Tiger Flight 739. Ninety-three of these were enlisted with the US Army, with the remaining three being from South Vietnam. Phnom Penh, against a background of advancing NVA troops in Vietnam, it describes the relations among the crew and their motivation and features a pet cockroach named Hiram and a 'mother' to the crew aged 13. After the aircraft failed to arrive at Clark Air Base in the Philippines, the flight was declared as having gone missing on the morning of March 16th, 1962. All attempts to re-establish contact with the flight were unsuccessful.. Despite the approved conditions, the Constellation came down more than 300 feet short of the runway, tearing off the landing gear and sending the aircraft skittering across the runway for about 2,000 feet. The effort involved more than 1,300 people, 48 aircraft, and eight ships. changed me for the better many moons ago. The Boeing 737 is a narrow-body aircraft produced by Boeing at its Renton Factory in Washington. $35.00. Thank you Jason for a story well told. I missed my 21st birthday completely. I remember the flights to and from, but what really sticks in my mind was the blast of hot, humid air that swept through the plane when they opened the doors. a version of Purgatory, Imitation lets you catch up to the guy ahead, but never lets you pass." They were cordial but standoffish. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. I was a nurse in Namso I can appreciate their service. As Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Flying Tiger Line the world's largest all-cargo airline, I had the direct responsibility for our operations in South Vietnam. While it may not hold the same weight to some as the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, it will forever be a special place to remember their loved ones service and sacrifice., The inscription on the monument reads: Missing in action; Presumed dead. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739 went missing on March 16, 1962, with 93 U.S. Army soldiers on board. Flying Tiger Line was ramping up operations in Vietnam, too, and it's believed maintenance standards dropped as a result of increased demand. During the Vietnam years the Flying Tiger Line also worked overtime for the US Postal Service. Flying Tiger Based on the observations of civilians on a nearby tanker, the plane was between Guam and the Philippines when there was a flash and a vapor trail, indicating a midair explosion.. From there the plane, often a stretch DC-8, would fly west to Anchorage, then to Japan, then to the Philippines or Vietnam, dropping the troops off at military bases. This presumed death toll made it the worst accident involving the Lockheed L-1049 Super Constellation. C $52.00. Margi Falk. That was always the fun part, to take them out of there, remembered Gael Okicich, who flew with Tigers for 25 years. Pre-Owned. Like you were going to hang around. I have never heard this or found any reference on it, but I knew it would be of interest - AB I flew into Sea-Trac on Flying Tiger Airlines from Camh Rhan October 4 , 1971. Pre-Owned. The airline industry is always full of new developments! Mel Beers ret first sergeant . Shared with Public Cleaning up today and found this binder. If you've . Its a way to look back, said one woman planning to attend, Ann Price Montgomery, who joined Flying Tigers in 1968. And he said, Well, can you put all that aside when youre on the airplane and taking care of these boys? Foster recalled. We were goin up and up , the war down below, falling away now far behind us. The "Flying Tigers" (formally known as the American Volunteer Group or AVG) were famous for being in the fight very early in World War II. But my goal in life is that they will not be forgotten.. I went over in February 1970. As I was sitting down one of my friends who considered himself a ladies man, smarted off to me Oh, you struck out too, didnt you? I told him that I had not asked for her address that she gave it to me. https://open.spotify.com/show/5Th7BCpIKDE1hVTqNL3u0Q. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739 was a Lockheed L-1049 Super Constellation propliner chartered by the United States military that disappeared on March 16, 1962, over the Western Pacific Ocean. Knowing the outcome of the war - and how the US Congress of that era abandoned the people of Cambodia and South Vietnam - helps take the sting away, if only a little. ! Onboard were 107 people, all of whom remain missing as the aircraft was never found after its disappearance. Gotoff the jet and was greated by relatives. Was I really in a real war??? It was acquired by FedEx in 1989, after more than 40 years of flying cargo and passenger . Late 1940s PAA Pan American Airways 5 Years of Service Lapel Pin in 10K Gold by Balfour Item: airpi30006b-CON. and flew to Portland ,Oregon. Unfortunately for me I returned in a Medevac flight from Japan Yokosuka Naval Hospital. (1968-1989), B-747-100 Flying Tigers was the first airline to operate Boeing 747 passenger aircraft converted into efficient air freighters. The picture below shows a full plane of troops heading to Vietnam on a Flying Tiger Flight. It hooked up with the Pentagon to carry troops during the Korean War, and by the mid-1960s the airline was flying tens of thousands of soldiers into Vietnam at a time before the U.S. public was paying much attention to the conflict unfolding there. Thank you so much angels. 302/3 Kim Ma Street, Ngoc Khanh Ward, Ba Dinh District, Hanoi, Vietnam. These flights were also a powerful and moving experience for a generation of young women who served aboard these aircraft as flight attendants. I made that trip also in Jan,1967. While in Alaska stopping and refueling I was only 1/2 way through a mountain of pancakes, sausage and eggs smothered with Maple syrup when they announce for all out bound corpsmen to report immediately for departure. I went and returned on a Flying Tiger plane and remember very well the sensitive and kind treatment from the stewardesses both directions. This Is Your Captain by Reyne OShaughnessy, Flying Tiger Memories by Guy Van Herbruggen & Charles Kennedy, Tiger 747 by Guy Van Herbruggen/Charles Kennedy, DC-8 & The Flying Tiger Line by Guy Van Herbruggen & Charles Kennedy. The training had little to do with hospitality, focusing instead on emergency procedures, like how to ditch a plane after a crash or what to do if the plane drew gunfire. Kimberly is managing editor of FLYING digital. Six decades later, and the families of those onboard Flight 739 still dont know what happened. It brought back memories from 68. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Despite its modest size, Vietnam attracts tourists from all over the world with plenty to offer: expansive paddy fields, white-sand beaches, modern cities, hundred-year-old temples, limestone islands rising dramatically from under the ocean, magnificent natural caves, and minority communities with fascinating cultural traits. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Air Jet Advance Flying Tiger Cargo Airlines 1:200 B747 Freighter Model Airplane at the best online prices at eBay! Many airlines operated the flights, the most obvious being the Braniff, Continental, Pan Am, United, Seabord World etc 707s and DC-8s, as well as the smaller charter airlines like Universal I also understand the approaches into the airport there could at times be comparable to emergency descents - very rapid! I remember the silence upon arrival and cheering when wheels went up leaving. (1953-1958), Constellation Gen. -- The Lockheed Super H Constellation, airlifting 43,000 pounds of freight at 300 miles per hour over a 2,500-miles range, helped Flying Tigers revolutionize the marketing map of the United States with the first nonstop, transcontinental airfreight schedules. US Army CNN The families of soldiers lost while taking part in a secret US mission during. Those were the days. And many didnt know what to think, caught between respect for the military and horror over the fates of the boys on their flights. Prices were available within the past 7 days and start at $363 for one-way flights and $690 for round trip, for the period specified. Hard to not have an emotional moment while reading. Then all the guys just could not be held down by the stewerdesses and they did not even try to quiet the guys. I was a different person. It was really a struggle to decide what was right or what was wrong, said Okicich. The six man recon team was on an observation mission near Fire Support Base Alpine, about six miles east of the Laotian Border. At 8:22 a.m. on March 16the time when FTL 739s fuel would have officially run outthe flight was declared lost. In this decade the company developed an extensive global network, directly servicing all continents except for Africa, which was served through interlining. They cant be forgotten.. All the ladies on all the flights were outstanding, especially the ones on the flight home that handled some of the rude guys in isle seats. Operated primarily on transpacific military contract routes, the planes carried 73,000 pounds of freight at 550 miles per hour over a 3,000 range. Because they were young and energetic, they could work a 5-hour flight from Japan to Vietnam, spend an hour on the ground, turn around and fly 5 hours back to Japan, then take a quick shower and then go out dancing at a go-go club. The driver honked his horn but didnt get out. As the war worsened, and the airline continued hauling scared young men into Vietnam and bringing broken men out, the Flying Tigers crews found themselves wrestling with anger, confusion and sadness. I didnt use Flying Tigers going to and from my two tours in Vietnam, but I DID fly with them in 1963 going home from a two-year stint in Korea. There was no indication in this message or in any other of difficulties, ICAO said. SOLD!!! The plane very quiet, I had read everything in sight that was in the pocket of the seat in front of me. Few understood the emotional demands they would face. Put on the clothing and shoes that I had been wearing befor going to war. Wish I still knew a few of these darlings. When you went to school for Pan Am, they showed you how to do your makeup and your hair. What was the worst work detail you pulled in Vietnam? The company said it needed flight attendants. I recall the flight I took into Vietnam and even more than the flight I took home. Flying Tiger Attendant The airline also played a major role in the construction of the Distant Early Warning Line, flying equipment to remote outposts in northern Canada and Alaska. From Tokyo we flew to Anchorage where we were grounded another 18 to 20 hours due to a snow storm and for some reason, Anchorage did not have deicing capability. ber 1.000.000 Bilder Read about what they talk about at their reunions. (LogOut/ She has more than 20 years reporting experience, much of it covering aviation and defense issues. $375.00. In January 1953 Flying Tiger intended to lease a 049 from Intercontinental . Many of the women continued to fly, either with Tigers or other airlines; more than a few married Tigers pilots and started families. Itprovides a unique insight into the economics and marketing of inter-national airlines. In 1969, during the Vietnam War, a 21-year-old Seattle woman saw a job ad for a California cargo airline called the Flying Tiger Line that had a large presence in San Francisco. Photo: Unsolved Disappearance: The Story Of Flying Tiger Line Flight 739, USAF/Mike Andriacco via Wikimedia Commons, The Asiana-Korean Air Merger Has Been Green Lighted By The UK, Up Close & Personal: Lufthansa's New Double First Class Suite, Why Ryanair Isn't Following Wizz Air To The Wider Middle East & Asia, Quadjet Prospects: Switzerland's Edelweiss Set To Receive Another Airbus A340, Engine Failure Onboard Thai Smile Airbus A320 Followed By Tail Strike, Japan Airlines Serves A Banana As Vegan Meal. The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is an American long-haul, mid-size widebody, twin-engine jet airliner made by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. My most vivid memory is of the landing approach into Bien Hoa Airport. I have grieved for them ever since. Indeed, having begun in November 1955, it wouldn't come to an end until almost two decades later, in April 1975. What Was It Like To Hump The Boonies in Vietnam? Departed Bien Hoa (21 Apr 69)) on Flying Tiger (Stretch 8) with fuel stop in Japan. Was processed out of the Army at Fort Lewis, got a military standby flight for$11. Sellers with highest buyer ratings; They were thrown together all the time on the planes, in Saigon hotels sipping cocktails and at officers clubs on overseas military bases, where guys bought them drinks. These men and their flight crew perished in what would become one of the biggest aviation. Opens in a new window or tab. between heaven and hell. Thanks to all of you that attempted to make our journies more comfortable. 2019 by the San Francisco Airport Commission. The extension allowed a 30 trip home so I had 2 Tiger flights in and 2 out. The first of the "stretched" airfreights, it carried a payload of 110,000 pounds at 550 miles per hour over a 3,000 mile range. For some the experience changed their political beliefs, although they tried to keep politics off the plane. By all accounts, the predawn hours of March 15, 1962, were dreary at Adak Naval Air Station in Alaska as a Flying Tiger pilot attempted to make a refueling stop. (Pinterest) 15 March 1962: Flying Tiger Line Flight 7815/13 was a chartered flight for the Military Air Transport Service (M.A.T.S. A fine bunch of people. C-47-Flying Tiger relied heavily on the Douglas C-47, the cargo version of the famed DC-3. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. Next stop was Yokota Japan. In 1969, during the Vietnam War, a 21-year-old Seattle woman saw a job ad for a California cargo airline called the Flying Tiger Line that had a large presence in San Francisco. It was reported that the aircraft was left unattended in a dimly lighted area for a period of time while at Guam where total transit time was 1 hour and 33 minutes, ICAO said. Its such a part of history, and our own personal history.. And yes, we had a flight load of pucker factor and apprehension. The flight attendant standing at the top said see you in a year, Ill be wearing the same dress. Touching essay. Until now, I mostly ignored the efforts of these people (especially the attendants they saw, heard & felt all of it). On board the Constellation were 11 crew members and 96 passengers, 93 of whom were U.S. Army soldiers specialized in electronics, communications, and sharpshooting. He graduated high school and he could have gone to work in the woods, or he could have joined the military, Kirk, his niece, told FLYING. I often wondered what happened to them and now your story has given closure. The airline initially launched with 14 Navy surplus Budd RB Conestoga cargo aircraft. The soldiers onboard were flying there not to fight, but to help train South Vietnamese forces. Freedom Bird. I wouldnt trade the experience for a million dollars, stated Julie Kane, a flight attendant for Seaboard World Airlines. Pre-Owned. Flying Tiger aircraft were chartered to transport troops and supplies from the United States to Asia; Flying Tigers later received a cargo route award to Japan, China, and Southeast Asia. Great article .. enjoyed it more than my flight to Vietnam,but, what a wonderful sight when I walked out to the plane to return home. Color photograph of Flying Tiger Line's Lockheed L-1049H Super Constellation N6921C. I flew over on Continental..We had a flight attendant come to one of our VVA Chapter meeting and tell us about her time. Now going to the USA which I had forgotten about. To kill time many of us went to the Officers Club, with the flight attendants in tow, and proceeded to party. A very vulnerable feeling with out a weapon. The Flying Tigers were reactivated as the Marine Corps' second CH-53A squadron and re-designated Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadron 361 at New River North Carolina as part of Marine Aircraft Group 26, 2d Marine Aircraft Wing. thank you. As the Constellation approached the runway at about 3 a.m., visibility was about 3 miles, the ceiling was at 1,000 feet and a light drizzle and fog hovered over the runway as the pilot attempted to make the approach. Owing to the complex geopolitical circumstances of the mid to late 20th century, it was also involved in military charters, flying both cargo and troops to conflict zones. Compounding the mystery was that there was no physical evidence of what happened, not even an oil slick. Just reading this article brings tears to my eyes. Opens in a new window or tab. Budd Conestoga Gen. -- Flying Tiger Line's first aircraft was the Budd Conestoga, an all -- stainless steel, rear--loading, twin--engine aircraft. Top Rated Seller. 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